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Trump Mentioned 'Solely Suckers Went to Vietnam'?

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November 5, 2024

Forward of the November 2024 U.S. presidential elections, a purported quote from Republican candidate and former U.S. President Donald Trump went viral, by which he allegedly insulted troopers who fought within the Vietnam Warfare.

Per the quote, which was shared by Democratic candidate and U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris’ marketing campaign account on X, Trump allegedly mentioned, “Vietnam would have been a waste of time for me. Solely suckers went to Vietnam.”

(X person @KamalaHQ)

The quote in query emerged from an Oct. 24, 2024, story in The Atlantic written by the journal’s editor-in-chief, Jeffrey Goldberg. The article addressed Trump’s numerous feedback concerning the U.S. army, together with previous claims that he known as troopers who died in battle “suckers and losers.” Goldberg shared an anecdote instructed to him by an unnamed former Trump Cupboard secretary:

One former Trump-administration Cupboard secretary instructed me of a dialog he’d had with Trump throughout his time in workplace concerning the Vietnam Warfare. Trump famously escaped the draft by claiming that his toes have been bothered with bone spurs. (“I had a physician that gave me a letter—a really robust letter on the heels,” Trump instructed The New York Instances in 2016.) As soon as, when the topic of growing old Vietnam veterans got here up in dialog, Trump provided this remark to the Cupboard official: “Vietnam would have been a waste of time for me. Solely suckers went to Vietnam.”

Nonetheless, there seems to be no proof of an audio or video recording of the remarks in query, neither is there any documentation, reminiscent of transcripts or presidential notes, to independently verify or deny the alleged quotes’ authenticity. Moreover, the anecdote was introduced as a second-hand account, with an nameless former official because the supply. With out the corroboration of a firsthand witness, we will not say for sure whether or not Trump made the above feedback.

We reached out to Trump’s press group for its response to this anecdote. They’d neither verify nor deny that Trump made any such remarks. Spokesperson Brian Hughes instructed us over e-mail, “President Trump rebuilt our army and expanded help for veterans to have a powerful standing on the planet and the peace and stability that comes with that energy, and he’s the one candidate that can put veterans and army households first in a second time period.”

We must always note that Trump’s purported remarks calling fallen U.S. troopers “suckers and losers” was first reported by The Atlantic in 2020. The early information tales on Trump’s disparaging comments about troopers relied initially on nameless sources.

Gen. John Kelly, who was Trump’s chief of workers when the alleged feedback have been made, confirmed that Trump did name American troops “losers” and “suckers.” Nonetheless, it was unclear whether or not he witnessed the feedback firsthand or heard about them from another person, or from information reviews. Trump and his allies denied the accusations, although they haven’t responded to the above anecdote cited on this October 2024 story.

Per the October 2024 Atlantic story, former Trump administration officers together with Kelly shared tales of Trump’s admiration for autocrats like Adolf Hitler, and his previous feedback on the army. In response to the e book, “The Divider: Trump within the White Home” Trump requested his then-chief of workers, Kelly “Why cannot you be just like the German generals?” Kelly instructed Trump the German generals “tried to kill Hitler 3 times and virtually pulled it off.” However Trump responded, “No, no, no, they have been completely loyal to him.”

Kelly gave The Atlantic extra particulars concerning the above alternate:

[Kelly] instructed me that when Trump raised the topic of “German generals,” Kelly responded by asking, “‘Do you imply Bismarck’s generals?'” He went on: “I imply, I knew he did not know who Bismarck was, or concerning the Franco-Prussian Warfare. I mentioned, ‘Do you imply the kaiser’s generals? Absolutely you may’t imply Hitler’s generals? And he mentioned, ‘Yeah, yeah, Hitler’s generals.’ I defined to him that Rommel needed to commit suicide after participating in a plot towards Hitler.” Kelly instructed me Trump was not acquainted with Rommel.

As now we have reported before, Trump obtained 4 pupil deferments, then was disqualified from serving besides in a time of struggle or nationwide emergency after a medical examination discovered he had bone spurs in each heels. We confirmed Trump’s deferment historical past by way of Selective Service information obtained from the U.S. Nationwide Archives by The Smoking Gun in 2011.

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