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Has anybody tried to open a joint Money Plus account for a pair? Is that doable?
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Nice! Thanks!
Yet one more query — did anybody within the trial pool have this account final yr, and the way have been tax paperwork dealt with? It’s understood that is only a particular brokerage account, so did it problem its personal Consolidated 1099 much like taxable accounts, or a 1099-INT much like a checking account? Or was it a Consolidated 1099 with splits between 1099-INT and 1099-DIV in line with whether or not it was financial institution sweep curiosity earnings or Cash Market Dividends?
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Feldman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:44 amNice! Thanks!
Yet one more query — did anybody within the trial pool have this account final yr, and the way have been tax paperwork dealt with? It’s understood that is only a particular brokerage account, so did it problem its personal Consolidated 1099 much like taxable accounts, or a 1099-INT much like a checking account? Or was it a Consolidated 1099 with splits between 1099-INT and 1099-DIV in line with whether or not it was financial institution sweep curiosity earnings or Cash Market Dividends?
Thanks!
You must obtain a consolidated 1099 with 1099-DIV, 1099-INT, with a closing element of Supplemental info to find out % state tax numbers.
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I efficiently created a joint account for my dad and mom, additionally with all the things nonetheless frozen, in order that’s 2 for two! Comparatively easy up to now.
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I initially considered utilizing a HYSA like Amex, however I discover that Vanguard Money Plus has a better rate of interest and so they may wish to do some brokerage account investing sooner or later, so placing them right into a Money Plus would kill 2 birds with one stone.
My query is would a Money Plus be good for this function? Is there a restrict on switch to exterior checking account (quantity per thirty days) and quantity (restrict to $140K a month for instance)? Are there account upkeep price of any type? I’ve seen put up about Vanguard imposing charges on accounts. I used to be questioning if this can lead to charges for somebody beginning only a Money account.
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FWIW, I simply known as Vanguard customer support and so they confirmed that it’s now doable to arrange automated month-to-month transfers from a Vanguard Money Plus acct to a checking account at an exterior financial institution. The rep stated this alteration occurred a couple of week in the past. (Apologies if this nugget has already been reported on this thread, I appeared however did not see it).
I am in search of an account to carry our annual withdrawal lump sum and to parcel it out to our checking account month-to-month. I have been on the fence between utilizing Money Plus or the Federal Cash Market fund. I figured it could be straightforward to discover a chart evaluating historic rates of interest (20 years?) of HYSA vs Vgd Federal Cash Market, however I did not hit gold. Over shorter durations it appears just like the Federal MM Fund usually had barely larger charges (possibly approx 0.25% larger over all durations) BUT when MM charges went to close zero the HYSA had larger charges. The FDIC insurance coverage is sweet, however (possibly wrongly) I would really feel barely higher if Vanguard was not in between me and the FDIC constitution holding financial institution. Nonetheless, there will likely be no “breaking of the buck” with a checking account, it doesn’t matter what.
So, I used to be all set to determine a Money Plus account after which I learn Feldman’s about needing to quickly unfreeze my credit score studies. Uggh. It was good to see Feldman’s report viewtopic.php?p=7959295#p7959295 of success regardless of having frozen credit score studies, thanks for that.
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vigilant104 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:52 pm
Howdy.
FWIW, I simply known as Vanguard customer support and so they confirmed that it’s now doable to arrange automated month-to-month transfers from a Vanguard Money Plus acct to a checking account at an exterior financial institution. The rep stated this alteration occurred a couple of week in the past. (Apologies if this nugget has already been reported on this thread, I appeared however did not see it).
I appeared on my profiles and CP doesn’t present up as possibility for automated withdrawals. Anybody else truly seen it in motion?
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- There’s apparently an ETF restrict of $100K per day. This restrict don’t apply to wire switch, that are limitless. A restrict of $100K per day might be superb.
- There isn’t any restrict on variety of switch per thirty days.
- Switch takes 1 enterprise days, however he warn that the financial institution can cancel the switch inside 7 days. This is not a Vanguard rule. The
- When you shut the account by transferring all the things out after which closing the account you’ll get a $100 price. You possibly can keep away from that price by calling them up and having them mail you a test. I suppose you may simply switch out eveyrthing eccept $1 and have them shut the account.
- The rep warned that if in case you have cash in one of many associate banks, you will have to be sure to inform Vanguard to exclude that financial institution from the associate listing. It’s essential to preserve a restrict of 5 banks to get the max 1.2M FDIC insurace.
The customer support appears superb. I solely waited for a couple of minutes. It have solely known as Vanguard a handful of instances since I take advantage of them because the 90’s.
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retiringwhen wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:11 pmvigilant104 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:52 pm
Howdy.
FWIW, I simply known as Vanguard customer support and so they confirmed that it’s now doable to arrange automated month-to-month transfers from a Vanguard Money Plus acct to a checking account at an exterior financial institution. The rep stated this alteration occurred a couple of week in the past. (Apologies if this nugget has already been reported on this thread, I appeared however did not see it).I appeared on my profiles and CP doesn’t present up as possibility for automated withdrawals. Anybody else truly seen it in motion?
Have you ever arrange a CP account but? The rep instructed me that CP would present up underneath automated withdrawals choices as soon as I arrange an account. Sorry, I am unable to confirm that since I have never arrange the CP account but.
Can possibly somebody right here with a CP account see if there’s an automated month-to-month withdrawal possibility someplace underneath the “Transact” tab? Thanks.
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vigilant104 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:14 pmretiringwhen wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:11 pm
I appeared on my profiles and CP doesn’t present up as possibility for automated withdrawals. Anybody else truly seen it in motion?Have you ever arrange a CP account but? The rep instructed me that CP would present up underneath automated withdrawals choices as soon as I arrange an account. Sorry, I am unable to confirm that since I have never arrange the CP account but.
Sure, my CP account is about 6 mos. previous. In all probability not absolutely rolled out but is my guess. I can see the previous model web page for automated withdrawals for all my different accounts simply superb.
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gavinsiu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:14 pm
I known as Vanguard to check out customer support (since there have been numerous put up that it has worsen) and to get some data.
- There’s apparently an ETF restrict of $100K per day. This restrict don’t apply to wire switch, that are limitless. A restrict of $100K per day might be superb.
- There isn’t any restrict on variety of switch per thirty days.
- Switch takes 1 enterprise days, however he warn that the financial institution can cancel the switch inside 7 days. This is not a Vanguard rule. The
- When you shut the account by transferring all the things out after which closing the account you’ll get a $100 price. You possibly can keep away from that price by calling them up and having them mail you a test. I suppose you may simply switch out eveyrthing eccept $1 and have them shut the account.
- The rep warned that if in case you have cash in one of many associate banks, you will have to be sure to inform Vanguard to exclude that financial institution from the associate listing. It’s essential to preserve a restrict of 5 banks to get the max 1.2M FDIC insurace.
The customer support appears superb. I solely waited for a couple of minutes. It have solely known as Vanguard a handful of instances since I take advantage of them because the 90’s.
Thanks for posting the outcomes of your name. Maybe you could possibly get across the EFT restrict by transferring to a brokerage account first, the into CP?
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vigilant104 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:52 pm
So, I used to be all set to determine a Money Plus account after which I learn Feldman’s about needing to quickly unfreeze my credit score studies. Uggh. It was good to see Feldman’s report viewtopic.php?p=7959295#p7959295 of success regardless of having frozen credit score studies, thanks for that.
Sure, I encountered no points throughout three folks and two accounts (one particular person, one joint) with all the things frozen in all circumstances. With the caveat that we already had Vanguard logins and different Vanguard Brokerage accounts. When you acquired that mould, I might not hesitate to strive it, given my expertise. The newly created accounts have been instantly seen throughout the related logins and credited with the funding quantities specified through linked exterior financial institution switch.
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Give the account an opportunity to age whereas I contemplate its use case?
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ScubaHogg wrote: ↑Solar Jul 21, 2024 9:39 am
Have solely learn the previous couple of pages. I haven’t determine to make use of the CP account but, however provided that we have already got Vanguard accounts, is there any conceivable (cheap) draw back to simply opening a CP account?Give the account an opportunity to age whereas I contemplate its use case?
You would be charged $100 to shut it, when you ultimately want to take action. Moreover, if the settlement is something like Constancy’s CMA settlement, you have to agree to permit the brokerage to share all of your private figuring out info with this system banks.
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zero_coupon wrote: ↑Solar Jul 21, 2024 1:03 pmScubaHogg wrote: ↑Solar Jul 21, 2024 9:39 am
Have solely learn the previous couple of pages. I haven’t determine to make use of the CP account but, however provided that we have already got Vanguard accounts, is there any conceivable (cheap) draw back to simply opening a CP account?Give the account an opportunity to age whereas I contemplate its use case?
You would be charged $100 to shut it, when you ultimately want to take action. Moreover, if the settlement is something like Constancy’s CMA settlement, you have to agree to permit the brokerage to share all of your private figuring out info with this system banks.
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zero_coupon wrote: ↑Solar Jul 21, 2024 1:03 pmScubaHogg wrote: ↑Solar Jul 21, 2024 9:39 am
Have solely learn the previous couple of pages. I haven’t determine to make use of the CP account but, however provided that we have already got Vanguard accounts, is there any conceivable (cheap) draw back to simply opening a CP account?Give the account an opportunity to age whereas I contemplate its use case?
You would be charged $100 to shut it, when you ultimately want to take action. Moreover, if the settlement is something like Constancy’s CMA settlement, you have to agree to permit the brokerage to share all of your private figuring out info with this system banks.
I doubt you’ll be charged $100 when you simply routed the funds elsewhere inside Vanguard and clicked the web button to shut. Exterior account switch, maybe.
Relating to info sharing, here’s what the Financial institution Sweep Program Phrases of Use doc (revised 2023-12) says underneath the heading of Confidentiality:
We’ll disclose info to 3rd events about Your Money Plus Account or the transactions You make:– The place it’s crucial for finishing transactions, or
– To be able to confirm the existence and situation of Yoir account for a 3rd get together, similar to a credit score bureau or service provider, or
– To be able to adjust to authorities company or courtroom orders, or
– In conformance with Our Privateness Coverage, or
– If You give Us Your written permission.
I suppose third events are totally different from Program Banks, however I do not discover a lot element about info sharing with the banks past what it legally required. I will likely be fairly upset if this finally ends up with me receiving advertising and marketing supplies immediately from the Program Banks.
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Undoubtedly for exterior transfers. Unclear whether or not inside transfers rely. See right here:
gavinsiu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:14 pm
I known as Vanguard … to get some data.
- When you shut the account by transferring all the things out after which closing the account you’ll get a $100 price. You possibly can keep away from that price by calling them up and having them mail you a test. I suppose you may simply switch out eveyrthing eccept $1 and have them shut the account.
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Feldman wrote: ↑Solar Jul 21, 2024 1:46 pm
Relating to info sharing, here’s what the Financial institution Sweep Program Phrases of Use doc (revised 2023-12) says underneath the heading of Confidentiality:We’ll disclose info to 3rd events about Your Money Plus Account or the transactions You make:– The place it’s crucial for finishing transactions, or
– To be able to confirm the existence and situation of Yoir account for a 3rd get together, similar to a credit score bureau or service provider, or
– To be able to adjust to authorities company or courtroom orders, or
– In conformance with Our Privateness Coverage, or
– If You give Us Your written permission.
I suppose third events are totally different from Program Banks, however I do not discover a lot element about info sharing with the banks past what it legally required. I will likely be fairly upset if this finally ends up with me receiving advertising and marketing supplies immediately from the Program Banks.
Thanks for posting the knowledge from the Vanguard CP settlement. Maybe their privateness coverage has extra particulars. Nonetheless, I might be shocked if they do not share buyer PII with the Program Banks within the method of Constancy:
Constancy’s FDIC-Insured Deposit Sweep Program Disclosure wrote:
You additional acknowledge and agree to permit Constancy to share private details about you, together with things like your title, Social Safety quantity or tax identification quantity, tackle, and date of beginning, with … the Program Banks … .
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I solely use Money Plus for accumulating MMF money and I just like the separation from the brokerage accounts. I do not like to combine my money with my funding portfolio if there’s another.
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Simply added Vanguard Money Plus to MiL’s BoA account. Took the identical steps on my account and bumped into the identical error we’re used to. The one distinction is that she would not have a BoA checking account.
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However simply needed to double test with the CP there’s NO: deposits robotically sweeping into VUSXX, VUSXX auto liquidate for debit/withdrawal, transfer money or VUSXX from taxable brokerage to CP immediately, 2 day early direct deposit, or free wires?
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runr wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:34 pm
I learn earlier on this thread, there is a $100 account closure price for the CP? That doesn’t sound correct, possibly persons are confused with the ACAT price?However simply needed to double test with the CP there’s NO: deposits robotically sweeping into VUSXX, VUSXX auto liquidate for debit/withdrawal, transfer money or VUSXX from taxable brokerage to CP immediately, 2 day early direct deposit, or free wires?
Effectively, geez, once you put it like that…. 
Vanguard did just lately add a $100 closure price to some accounts, not an ACAT price, an account closure price. I have no idea if it applies to CP however we do have that information level that was talked about just lately on this thread that somebody was instructed by customer support that it does.
To your second paragraph – these are all right per my understanding. The auto sweep is the FDIC financial institution sweep that’s extra akin to an HYSA and pays 4.6% at the moment. No auto liquidation of MMF held inside CP for debits, however the financial institution sweep can payout immediately. Shifting money from CP to brokerage takes sooner or later. Direct deposit hits on payday, out there to withdraw subsequent day (however in the stores MMF inside CP straight away. Wires I’m unsure about however by no means noticed any point out of free when reviewing the documentation and utilizing the account.
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I used to be making an attempt to do that so as to switch cash from my Vanguard brokerage account to my Money Plus account. I am unable to do a “regular” switch as a result of they’re each joint accounts, however the co-owners are totally different. So I suppose the one approach is to switch to an exterior checking or financial savings account, after which again in to Vanguard. 
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retiringwhen wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:11 pmvigilant104 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:52 pm
Howdy.
FWIW, I simply known as Vanguard customer support and so they confirmed that it’s now doable to arrange automated month-to-month transfers from a Vanguard Money Plus acct to a checking account at an exterior financial institution. The rep stated this alteration occurred a couple of week in the past. (Apologies if this nugget has already been reported on this thread, I appeared however did not see it).I appeared on my profiles and CP doesn’t present up as possibility for automated withdrawals. Anybody else truly seen it in motion?
Sure, I can fortunately verify that the flexibility to schedule automated transfers are enabled.
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I have never learn the thread in it is entirety however now we have a brokerage account by means of vanguard however needed to have a capability to pay mortgage and different payments so I opened up a Vanguard Money Plus account. Can we add direct deposit to it as nicely (by means of employer)? I had beforehand tried getting employer to do direct deposit for brokerage account however my employer stated there was points getting it to undergo that approach. I even went by means of the shape and gave it to them.
Thanks!
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rls303 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:46 pm
I have never learn the thread in it is entirety however now we have a brokerage account by means of vanguard however needed to have a capability to pay mortgage and different payments so I opened up a Vanguard Money Plus account. Can we add direct deposit to it as nicely (by means of employer)?
Sure. 
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I solely opened my Vanguard CPA in mid-February of this yr (6 months in the past) and have already seen two (2) .10% fee reductions, first to 4.60% and now to 4.50%. With a stability of over $200K within the account, this equates to actual cash ($400+ yearly). Moreover, the Vanguard FAQ part for this account clearly states that an e mail notification will likely be despatched out anytime the speed of return adjustments, and I’ve acquired no such communication. Am I the one one right here who’s feeling upset about these reductions, and/or the shortage of notifications from Vanguard?! I’m certain there will likely be responses similar to “nicely, it’s nonetheless a greater fee of return than fill-in-the-blank!” However as a longtime Vanguard consumer with a number of mutual funds and my IRA with them, this simply feels actually bush league and disappointing. If I knew they’d be altering the phrases so rapidly and considerably, I could have simply thrown the dough in a CD at a better fee of return (I don’t have to entry it anytime quickly). Simply to listen to how others really feel about this…
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Coopstar wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:18 pm
I solely opened my Vanguard CPA in mid-February of this yr (6 months in the past) and have already seen two (2) .10% fee reductions, first to 4.60% and now to 4.50%. With a stability of over $200K within the account, this equates to actual cash ($400+ yearly). Moreover, the Vanguard FAQ part for this account clearly states that an e mail notification will likely be despatched out anytime the speed of return adjustments, and I’ve acquired no such communication. Am I the one one right here who’s feeling upset about these reductions, and/or the shortage of notifications from Vanguard?! I’m certain there will likely be responses similar to “nicely, it’s nonetheless a greater fee of return than fill-in-the-blank!” However as a longtime Vanguard consumer with a number of mutual funds and my IRA with them, this simply feels actually bush league and disappointing. If I knew they’d be altering the phrases so rapidly and considerably, I could have simply thrown the dough in a CD at a better fee of return (I don’t have to entry it anytime quickly). Simply to listen to how others really feel about this…
I’ve observed that as nicely. For a while the APY was regular at 4.70%. Then over the previous couple of months it dropped by .20% for no obvious motive (No motion from the Fed). I too am irritated by the shortage of communication on the speed adjustments. I got here to CP from American Specific and they might at all times ship of e mail notices when their APY was altering.
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Visitor76 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 9:03 amCoopstar wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:18 pm
I solely opened my Vanguard CPA in mid-February of this yr (6 months in the past) and have already seen two (2) .10% fee reductions, first to 4.60% and now to 4.50%. With a stability of over $200K within the account, this equates to actual cash ($400+ yearly). Moreover, the Vanguard FAQ part for this account clearly states that an e mail notification will likely be despatched out anytime the speed of return adjustments, and I’ve acquired no such communication. Am I the one one right here who’s feeling upset about these reductions, and/or the shortage of notifications from Vanguard?! I’m certain there will likely be responses similar to “nicely, it’s nonetheless a greater fee of return than fill-in-the-blank!” However as a longtime Vanguard consumer with a number of mutual funds and my IRA with them, this simply feels actually bush league and disappointing. If I knew they’d be altering the phrases so rapidly and considerably, I could have simply thrown the dough in a CD at a better fee of return (I don’t have to entry it anytime quickly). Simply to listen to how others really feel about this…I’ve observed that as nicely. For a while the APY was regular at 4.70%. Then over the previous couple of months it dropped by .20% for no obvious motive (No motion from the Fed). I too am irritated by the shortage of communication on the speed adjustments. I got here to CP from American Specific and they might at all times ship of e mail notices when their APY was altering.
Ally has been steadily dropping their financial savings charges too, that’s what banks do particularly once they do not want deposits. if you’d like yield, banks should not the place to be, plain and easy.
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retiringwhen wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 9:17 amVisitor76 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 9:03 amCoopstar wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:18 pm
I solely opened my Vanguard CPA in mid-February of this yr (6 months in the past) and have already seen two (2) .10% fee reductions, first to 4.60% and now to 4.50%. With a stability of over $200K within the account, this equates to actual cash ($400+ yearly). Moreover, the Vanguard FAQ part for this account clearly states that an e mail notification will likely be despatched out anytime the speed of return adjustments, and I’ve acquired no such communication. Am I the one one right here who’s feeling upset about these reductions, and/or the shortage of notifications from Vanguard?! I’m certain there will likely be responses similar to “nicely, it’s nonetheless a greater fee of return than fill-in-the-blank!” However as a longtime Vanguard consumer with a number of mutual funds and my IRA with them, this simply feels actually bush league and disappointing. If I knew they’d be altering the phrases so rapidly and considerably, I could have simply thrown the dough in a CD at a better fee of return (I don’t have to entry it anytime quickly). Simply to listen to how others really feel about this…I’ve observed that as nicely. For a while the APY was regular at 4.70%. Then over the previous couple of months it dropped by .20% for no obvious motive (No motion from the Fed). I too am irritated by the shortage of communication on the speed adjustments. I got here to CP from American Specific and they might at all times ship of e mail notices when their APY was altering.
Ally has been steadily dropping their financial savings charges too, that’s what banks do particularly once they do not want deposits. if you’d like yield, banks should not the place to be, plain and easy.
Effectively, in the event that they maintain dropping the yield on CP, I will need to switch funds over to VMFXX.
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Visitor76 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 11:10 amAlly has been steadily dropping their financial savings charges too, that’s what banks do particularly once they do not want deposits. if you’d like yield, banks should not the place to be, plain and easy.
Effectively, in the event that they maintain dropping the yield on CP, I will need to switch funds over to VMFXX.
I already try this 
CP is just for money I’ll spend within the month.
FDIC insurance coverage is approach too costly.
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retiringwhen wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 9:17 amVisitor76 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 9:03 amCoopstar wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:18 pm
I solely opened my Vanguard CPA in mid-February of this yr (6 months in the past) and have already seen two (2) .10% fee reductions, first to 4.60% and now to 4.50%. With a stability of over $200K within the account, this equates to actual cash ($400+ yearly). Moreover, the Vanguard FAQ part for this account clearly states that an e mail notification will likely be despatched out anytime the speed of return adjustments, and I’ve acquired no such communication. Am I the one one right here who’s feeling upset about these reductions, and/or the shortage of notifications from Vanguard?! I’m certain there will likely be responses similar to “nicely, it’s nonetheless a greater fee of return than fill-in-the-blank!” However as a longtime Vanguard consumer with a number of mutual funds and my IRA with them, this simply feels actually bush league and disappointing. If I knew they’d be altering the phrases so rapidly and considerably, I could have simply thrown the dough in a CD at a better fee of return (I don’t have to entry it anytime quickly). Simply to listen to how others really feel about this…I’ve observed that as nicely. For a while the APY was regular at 4.70%. Then over the previous couple of months it dropped by .20% for no obvious motive (No motion from the Fed). I too am irritated by the shortage of communication on the speed adjustments. I got here to CP from American Specific and they might at all times ship of e mail notices when their APY was altering.
Ally has been steadily dropping their financial savings charges too, that’s what banks do particularly once they do not want deposits. if you’d like yield, banks should not the place to be, plain and easy.
Yeah, you’re type of stating the apparent with that final sentence, and I’m savvy/well-diversified sufficient (actual property, traditional automobiles, crypto, varied mutual funds, and so forth) to know the professionals & cons of assorted investments. I simply would have anticipated higher from Vanguard, that’s all. The precept bothers me, specifically that they comparatively just lately launched this new product with an attractive fee and nice fanfare…however then considerably chopped the speed of return inside a brief span of time.
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Coopstar wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:59 pm
Yeah, you’re type of stating the apparent with that final sentence, and I’m savvy/well-diversified sufficient (actual property, traditional automobiles, crypto, varied mutual funds, and so forth) to know the professionals & cons of assorted investments. I simply would have anticipated higher from Vanguard, that’s all. The precept bothers me, specifically that they comparatively just lately launched this new product with an attractive fee and nice fanfare…however then considerably chopped the speed of return inside a brief span of time.
Deposits at their main opponents is normally about half that for FDIC insured deposits.
Really about half for Constancy and about 1/tenth for Schwab.
Vanguard is doing simply superb and offering good charges for his or her market.
They aren’t competing with Poppy Financial institution.
Apart from, Vanguard already beats ALL their competitors besides Gabelli with cash market charges by normally .5% or extra.
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Coopstar wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:18 pm
I solely opened my Vanguard CPA in mid-February of this yr (6 months in the past) and have already seen two (2) .10% fee reductions, first to 4.60% and now to 4.50%. With a stability of over $200K within the account, this equates to actual cash ($400+ yearly). Moreover, the Vanguard FAQ part for this account clearly states that an e mail notification will likely be despatched out anytime the speed of return adjustments, and I’ve acquired no such communication. Am I the one one right here who’s feeling upset about these reductions, and/or the shortage of notifications from Vanguard?! I’m certain there will likely be responses similar to “nicely, it’s nonetheless a greater fee of return than fill-in-the-blank!” However as a longtime Vanguard consumer with a number of mutual funds and my IRA with them, this simply feels actually bush league and disappointing. If I knew they’d be altering the phrases so rapidly and considerably, I could have simply thrown the dough in a CD at a better fee of return (I don’t have to entry it anytime quickly). Simply to listen to how others really feel about this…
The VGCP account fee intently tracks Treasury charges.
Treasury charges have gone down fairly a bit within the final 3 weeks.
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Coopstar wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:18 pm
I solely opened my Vanguard CPA in mid-February of this yr (6 months in the past) and have already seen two (2) .10% fee reductions, first to 4.60% and now to 4.50%. With a stability of over $200K within the account, this equates to actual cash ($400+ yearly). Moreover, the Vanguard FAQ part for this account clearly states that an e mail notification will likely be despatched out anytime the speed of return adjustments, and I’ve acquired no such communication. Am I the one one right here who’s feeling upset about these reductions, and/or the shortage of notifications from Vanguard?! I’m certain there will likely be responses similar to “nicely, it’s nonetheless a greater fee of return than fill-in-the-blank!” However as a longtime Vanguard consumer with a number of mutual funds and my IRA with them, this simply feels actually bush league and disappointing. If I knew they’d be altering the phrases so rapidly and considerably, I could have simply thrown the dough in a CD at a better fee of return (I don’t have to entry it anytime quickly). Simply to listen to how others really feel about this…
Coopstar wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:59 pmretiringwhen wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 9:17 am
Ally has been steadily dropping their financial savings charges too, that’s what banks do particularly once they do not want deposits. if you’d like yield, banks should not the place to be, plain and easy.Yeah, you’re type of stating the apparent with that final sentence, and I’m savvy/well-diversified sufficient (actual property, traditional automobiles, crypto, varied mutual funds, and so forth) to know the professionals & cons of assorted investments. I simply would have anticipated higher from Vanguard, that’s all. The precept bothers me, specifically that they comparatively just lately launched this new product with an attractive fee and nice fanfare…however then considerably chopped the speed of return inside a brief span of time.
How do I really feel about it? Vanguard by no means promised, nor did I count on them, to keep up the identical fee even when it meant operating the account at a loss. I agree a notification of the speed lower would have been appreciated, and that’s disappointing, however the fee lower itself would not trouble me as I anticipated it simply as I count on extra to be coming. As others have identified, HYSAs are coming down throughout the board. Vanguard’s HYSA continues to be close to the highest of the pack particularly amongst respected monetary establishments. Money Plus is a spot to stash short-term money and pay payments, and get an excellent fee whereas doing so (aggressive FDIC/HYSA or industry-leading MMF). That hasn’t modified.
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Charges drop simply as they do with cash market funds. One other case of the cleanest soiled shirt?
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I wasn’t ready so as to add Vanguard Money Plus as a checking account to my Constancy NetBenefits 401(ok) account on account of Constancy not accepting the routing quantity on the web site. I known as Constancy, then they created a “analysis” assist ticket, after which in some way they have been ready so as to add the Vanguard Money Plus checking account to my Constancy account after a couple of days.
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retiringwhen wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 11:12 amVisitor76 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 11:10 amAlly has been steadily dropping their financial savings charges too, that’s what banks do particularly once they do not want deposits. if you’d like yield, banks should not the place to be, plain and easy.
Effectively, in the event that they maintain dropping the yield on CP, I will need to switch funds over to VMFXX.
I already try this
FDIC insurance coverage is approach too costly.
How will we make a everlasting change to MMF (@5.3%) from the Vanguard Money Plus (@4.5%)? Does that change something now we have to do on our finish? Does it nonetheless do all of the transfers robotically, with out motion on my half and directly?
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Now I’m questioning if there’s actually any motive to maintain it. I’ve a taxable Vanguard brokerage account and really feel just like the sweep will at all times earn greater than the Money Plus. Is there any motive to maintain it when you aren’t utilizing it for FDIC insurance coverage or for transactions?
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manlymatt83 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 5:53 pm
I ended up shifting away from Vanguard Money Plus as my main transaction account. Principally for varied causes mentioned on this thread, similar to having bother linking it to different banks and the sooner or later delay for fund availability.Now I’m questioning if there’s actually any motive to maintain it. I’ve a taxable Vanguard brokerage account and really feel just like the sweep will at all times earn greater than the Money Plus. Is there any motive to maintain it when you aren’t utilizing it for FDIC insurance coverage or for transactions?
I did the identical factor some time again.
In case you are not utilizing ACH to pay payments, there may be not a lot else you may’t do in simply the common brokerage. Once I did testing some time again there was no velocity benefit to Money Plus over brokerage by way of shifting cash round.
One factor about Money Plus is we simply do not understand how low it should go in a really low fee surroundings. For example, VMFXX, SPAXX, and so forth. mainly went to zero, whereas the HYSAs (Ally and so forth.) leveled off at about 0.40%.
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Lastrun wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 6:11 pmmanlymatt83 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 5:53 pm
I ended up shifting away from Vanguard Money Plus as my main transaction account. Principally for varied causes mentioned on this thread, similar to having bother linking it to different banks and the sooner or later delay for fund availability.Now I’m questioning if there’s actually any motive to maintain it. I’ve a taxable Vanguard brokerage account and really feel just like the sweep will at all times earn greater than the Money Plus. Is there any motive to maintain it when you aren’t utilizing it for FDIC insurance coverage or for transactions?
I did the identical factor some time again.
In case you are not utilizing ACH to pay payments, there may be not a lot else you may’t do in simply the common brokerage. Once I did testing some time again there was no velocity benefit to Money Plus over brokerage by way of shifting cash round.
One factor about Money Plus is we simply do not understand how low it should go in a really low fee surroundings. For example, VMFXX, SPAXX, and so forth. mainly went to zero, whereas the HYSAs (Ally and so forth.) leveled off at about 0.40%.
Did you find yourself closing yours?
Hmm. I’ve a capital one financial savings account and even when they’re 15 or 20 BP under VCP is it definitely worth the squeeze?
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manlymatt83 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 6:20 pm
Did you find yourself closing yours?Hmm. I’ve a capital one financial savings account and even when they’re 15 or 20 BP under VCP is it definitely worth the squeeze?
I’ve not closed it but. Been touring a ton and can get to it. $0 stability for some time know.
I’m making an attempt to simplify issues so for me I actually need to make some yield to keep up a number of account, and significantly a number of establishments.
That stated, (1) I’m shocked on the gyrations of us undergo on BH to get an additional 10bps on their money, however hey if cash is mendacity on the road proper…. and (2) it was fascinating after I learn the entire Constancy As A One Cease Store thread how many individuals moved their cash out of Constancy and into HYSA’s throughout the newest ZIRP interval.
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Lastrun wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 6:28 pmmanlymatt83 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 6:20 pm
Did you find yourself closing yours?Hmm. I’ve a capital one financial savings account and even when they’re 15 or 20 BP under VCP is it definitely worth the squeeze?
I’ve not closed it but. Been touring a ton and can get to it. $0 stability for some time know.
I’m making an attempt to simplify issues so for me I actually need to make some yield to keep up a number of account, and significantly a number of establishments.
That stated, (1) I’m shocked on the gyrations of us undergo on BH to get an additional 10bps on their money, however hey if cash is mendacity on the road proper…. and (2) it was fascinating after I learn the entire Constancy As A One Cease Store thread how many individuals moved their cash out of Constancy and into HYSA’s throughout the newest ZIRP interval.
ZIRP? Replace: nevermind, acquired it!
Yeah, I discovered NBKC financial institution and love them. They reply on the primary ring. 3% checking and ATM price refunds. Ok for me.
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Lastrun wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 6:11 pmmanlymatt83 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 5:53 pm
I ended up shifting away from Vanguard Money Plus as my main transaction account. Principally for varied causes mentioned on this thread, similar to having bother linking it to different banks and the sooner or later delay for fund availability.Now I’m questioning if there’s actually any motive to maintain it. I’ve a taxable Vanguard brokerage account and really feel just like the sweep will at all times earn greater than the Money Plus. Is there any motive to maintain it when you aren’t utilizing it for FDIC insurance coverage or for transactions?
I did the identical factor some time again.
In case you are not utilizing ACH to pay payments, there may be not a lot else you may’t do in simply the common brokerage. Once I did testing some time again there was no velocity benefit to Money Plus over brokerage by way of shifting cash round.
One factor about Money Plus is we simply do not understand how low it should go in a really low fee surroundings. For example, VMFXX, SPAXX, and so forth. mainly went to zero, whereas the HYSAs (Ally and so forth.) leveled off at about 0.40%.
I’m solely utilizing CP as an escrow account to carry funds to pay property taxes, house/auto premiums, and HSA deductible limits. Consequently, I’m not too involved about yields as I’m needing a safe account to park cash wanted for annual bills.
Proper now my extra financial savings are going into VMFXX. Positive I might enhance my threat publicity with VTSAX, however why ought to I after I can earn 5.25% and sleep nicely at evening.
Wealth isn’t about having some huge cash; it is about having a number of choices.
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The truth that I nonetheless cannot hyperlink this to Schwab Moneylink… tempted to simply shut it out. Annoyance is not definitely worth the squeeze for an additional 20 foundation factors of yield. Will they cost me $100 to shut this?
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I do not suppose we collectively know the reply to that but. You may name customer support and ask and report again so now we have the info level. If the price applies, my technique could be to empty the account and let it sit at zero till they shut for inactivity.
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xmorphicx wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:59 amI do not suppose we collectively know the reply to that but. You may name customer support and ask and report again so now we have the info level. If the price applies, my technique could be to empty the account and let it sit at zero till they shut for inactivity.
Or simply depart $1.00 within the account.
Wealth isn’t about having some huge cash; it is about having a number of choices.
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xmorphicx wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:59 amI do not suppose we collectively know the reply to that but. You may name customer support and ask and report again so now we have the info level. If the price applies, my technique could be to empty the account and let it sit at zero till they shut for inactivity.
I’ve 4 empty brokerage accounts, one has been empty for 8 years and Vanguard simply fortunately leaves all of them there. I do have 3 energetic accounts and a 401K.
