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‘The Boys’ Showrunner on Hughie’s Sticky Tek Knight Encounter, That Zendaya Reference and Firecracker’s Massive-Hearted Present to Homelander

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July 4, 2024

SPOILER ALERTThis story accommodates spoilers from Episode 6 of “The Boys” Season 4, at present streaming on Amazon’s Prime Video.

This week on “The Boys”: Homelander (Antony Starr), Sage (Susan Heyward) and VP-elect Victoria Neuman (Claudia Doumit) rally some Federalist Society one-percenters to fall consistent with their plan for complete supe supremacist domination and to create internment camps for any detractors — and someway that was not the craziest a part of the episode.

First up, there was the large reveal that Jeffrey Dean Morgan’s character CIA agent Joe Kessler has been a hallucination of Butcher’s (Karl City) this complete time. You possibly can read more about that here.

Second, Hughie (Jack Quaid) goes undercover because the supe Webweaver on the extremely elite alt-right social gathering hosted by billionaire supe Tek Knight (Derek Wilson) to debate Homelander’s plan — and finally ends up being Tek Knight and Ashley’s (Colby Minifie) plaything down in Tek Knight’s intercourse dungeon, all of the whereas pretending he’s completely high quality and might deal with all this simply after the demise of his father Hugh Sr. (Simon Pegg).

“It was probably the most difficult and one in every of my favourite issues that I’ve gotten to do on this loopy world of a present,” Minifie instructed Selection. “There was a variety of prep for that. There have been like 4 fittings for that balloon of an outfit, which was designed by Michael Brown, and I cherished being in that. However I actually cherished how the writers and Kripke discovered this new door for Ashley to discover — how she launched her stress, and the way all shit flows down. She receives all these things from Homelander, after which simply makes use of it in a brand new means and will get off on it.”

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Jasper Savage/Prime Video

Third, Firecracker (Valorie Curry) proves her timeless fealty to Homelander by revealing she’s been taking prescription treatment that causes her to lactate (and enlarges her coronary heart), giving Homelander the possibility truly to breastfeed from her. Which makes Homelander, the mommy-issue-addled chief of the Seven, very pleased.

“I really like how that scene performed a lot, as a result of we each got here to it with this utter vulnerability and filled with sincerity — which simply makes it a lot fucking weirder,” Curry stated. “However with Firecracker, regardless of her simply madness and the issues that she spews, she has this uncanny capacity to know what individuals want, whether or not it’s in a crowd or it’s one on one. And even Homelander, she will be able to see the human inside that shell, and she will be able to see what that human wants, even when it seems to be like a weird fetish on the skin. And he or she’s prepared to provide him that additionally, as a result of she’s not afraid of him — she needs to be. However she actually believes her imaginative and prescient of who he’s, so she seems like she has no cause to be afraid of him, and makes herself so weak to his vulnerability. It’s so intimate.”

Curry stated a major quantity of prep went into that scene from “The Boys’” costume division “simply to construct the structure to make it attainable” to depict Firecracker breastfeeding Homelander, including: “The supersuit crew ought to simply patent the entire scenario there.”

See under for Selection‘s Q&A with “The Boys” showrunner Eric Kripke diving deeper into the Firecracker breastfeeding scene, Tek Knight’s intercourse dungeon and Hughie’s torturous time spent pretending to be Webweaver.

Let’s begin with the Tek Knight intercourse dungeon half. The place did the concept come for it? And why convey Hughie into this case now — kicking him when he’s down by having him sexually assaulted by his childhood hero after his dad simply died?

Nicely, that’s a darkish means to have a look at it! We view it as hilarious. Clearly, Tek Knight is our model of Batman, and we needed to essentially mess around with that trope: Batman’s fascist underpinnings as a very rich dude who hunts poor individuals, after which earnings of the incarceration. In order that was one. Tek Knight was already set as much as be a freak, so we had been type of already midway there. Then the notion got here up of, he ought to have a Batcave — however let’s be sincere, the Batcave can be a intercourse dungeon. Like, even the true Batcave is simply this facet of being a intercourse dungeon. It’s actually darkish, and there’s rubber fits all over the place. It’s not that a lot of a push so as to add a pair dildos after which a bizarre urinal that turns right into a face masks.

And within the comics, there’s an important storyline the place Hughie goes undercover disguised as a superhero. That was a narrative that Jack had at all times requested us to do. So a part of it’s, at all times watch out what you ask the writers for. Then we lastly had this Webweaver character and the concept of Spider-Man taking place to be kink tickled within the Batcave is simply too good to cross up. I’m sorry, I simply couldn’t go away that on the desk.

Had been there any items of that scene, both in writing or while you received to filming it, that Amazon stated “No, that’s too far”?

No, that was all just about as scripted. We had our poor writers’ assistant do a protracted record of actual kinks, as a result of we had been searching for some. And I bear in mind studying down the record and I’m like, “What’s cake farting?” After which they defined to me, and it’s an actual factor — however don’t look it up. I simply stated, that’s unbelievable, we’ve got to try this.

After which it appeared prefer it was an actual pure tie-in to convey Ashley into it, as a result of she does have dom/sub tendencies. I really like that it’s simply such an ideal setup that he doesn’t know his personal secure phrase. It’s similar to a ravishing comedy setup that he’s looking for it the entire time.

Was the secure phrase at all times going to be “Zendaya” — with the trace that Tek Knight says it’s what Webweaver “loves essentially the most” — as a nod to Tom Holland’s Spider-Man? Or did you’re employed by every other potential secure phrase concepts?

No, it was Anslem Richardson, who’s the good author of the episode — he simply put that within the first draft. I don’t assume we ever mentioned it, and he simply threw in that his secure phrase was “Zendaya,” and I simply laughed my ass off about that.

It’s the factor Spider-Man loves most!

Yeah! It’s the factor Spider-Man loves most.

After going by all that, Hughie lastly breaks down into tears with Annie on the finish of the episode as soon as they’re again at headquarters. Will we see extra fallout from that within the remaining episodes? As a result of he’s been by loads already along with his dad’s demise, after which that sex-dungeon trauma occurred.

His story on this specific episode is the type of denial and compartmentalization a variety of us have after we’re coping with the demise of a cherished one. And if you happen to look all through the episode, he’s at all times simply saying, “I’m high quality, I’m high quality, I’m completely high quality. I’m high quality.” Which is what lots of people do earlier than you lastly can type of open the door to the ache you’re feeling. And I believe that’s a part of therapeutic. So I believe he’s going to go on and actually attempt to soak up and be taught what his dad and his mom taught him about forgiveness, and actually attempt to take that into the season. As a result of he actually does have essentially the most mature and human arc out of all of the characters this season.

The place did the concept for Firecracker breastfeeding Homelander come from? We all know his milk fetish, we all know his mommy fetish. However the selection truly to take it to this stage on display screen and get Antony Starr and Valorie Curry comfy with that…

No, in fact, Ant and Val had been like, “Let’s do it!” I believe I bear in mind telling Val on Day 1 of seeing her in Toronto, “Simply so we’re clear, Firecracker goes to be breastfeeding him.” And I imagine her response was one thing to the impact of like, “Nicely, in fact she is.” If you take that character and the way slavishly devoted she is to Homelander, and the way she would do something for him — as she’s made abundantly clear by saying it like seven instances in a row to him — that giving him the factor he desires most on the earth turns into logical, in a bananas type of means.

As we had been saying within the room, as a result of she’s additionally jockeying to get in a greater place as a solution to promote out Sage, they’re now competing for Homelander’s consideration. So the dialog within the room got here up that Sage is nice at what individuals would possibly want intellectually, however Firecracker is basically wonderful at what individuals want emotionally. And we stated, “Nicely, what’s the factor Homelander wants most on the earth that nobody else may give them?” And it’s a hop, skip and a leap to, “Nicely, he would wish a girl who’s truly prepared to let him breastfeed.” And I bear in mind distinctly, Ellie Monahan within the room stated, “If we’re doing that, that’s the craziest factor we’ve ever achieved.” And it’s shut, man.

That scene, to begin with, getting the milk squirted into his face, and Ant’s shock and complete delight is such a ravishing second. However every other sane present would lower away at that time. And by the best way, not that sane — however that’s while you lower away, you recognize what’s gonna occur.

The truth that we lower to the precise breastfeeding scene makes me cowl my mouth each time. It’s simply so beautiful, and wow. Simply what it means to the characters — the actors’ balls in pulling that off. I imply, it’s simply my chef’s kiss to all of them.

And the drugs that does that solely enlarges her coronary heart slightly bit!

Only a tiny little bit.

This interview has been edited and condensed.

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