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Re: Slott: The Big Retirement Myth
afan wrote: ↑Solar Aug 25, 2024 8:30 pmHarmanic wrote: ↑Solar Aug 25, 2024 6:37 am
In lots of circumstances RMDs are a godsend as a result of passive, disinterested, and miserly traders typically want a nudge to get them to spend. The RMD is an easy method to do this or convert to Roth. Not that it’s related to most Bogleheads (apart from the miserly half).Aside from paying the taxes, RMDs don’t power one to spend any cash. They only must take it out of the retirement account.
Sure. I suppose they might present a few of it, or put in taxable to develop extra, maybe as a pleasant shock for his or her heirs if any.
Re: Slott: The Big Retirement Myth
mhadden1 wrote: ↑Solar Aug 25, 2024 7:08 pmtibbitts wrote: ↑Solar Aug 25, 2024 6:01 pmrs9876lg wrote: ↑Solar Aug 25, 2024 5:27 pm
Are you speaking about contributions made a number of occasions throughout your profession and distributions taken at a number of years throughout retirement?Has any individual executed cumulative evaluation utilizing time worth of cash? It won’t be simple to seek out actual common tax saved throughout accumulation and tax paid throughout distribution. Apart from we’re not actually inquisitive about tax however slightly what’s left after the tax. The mathematics can be extraordinarily difficult and I won’t even perceive it!
I believe everyone is counting on planning software program to do the mathematics – both via a product they buy or software program they develop themselves. At the very least to me the mathematics appears extraordinarily difficult.
I would slightly pay at a decrease price, so easy.
True, except paying at the next price would go away you a decrease quantity to spend. You’ll be able to usually pay at a decrease price by selecting what are probably lower-performing investments or giving freely cash, however that may depart each you and the taxing authorities with much less cash.
Re: Slott: The Big Retirement Myth
Watty wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:29 pmYou will need to needless to say your investments will continue to grow and till the required RMD proportion exceeds the funding development price that you’ll not want to truly begin drawing down and IRA. In case your investments can develop at 7% on common your RMD won’t exceed that till you might be in your late 80’s so most individuals won’t really stay lengthy to be required to attract down their IRSs with unneeded RMDs.One factor you might be lacking is that I’d guess {that a} majority of people who find themselves involved about unneeded RMDs can be wanting on the 22 or 24 % federal tax bracket which is able to revert to 25 and 28 % if there are not any tax regulation modifications The distinction between 22 and 28 is just 6% which isn’t a catastrophic distinction in the event you get it fallacious. There would even be state taxes, IRMAA, potential tax regulation, modifications, and many others however considering you may predict your tax scenario many years into the longer term inside 6% shouldn’t be reasonable.
Doesn’t this appear to be a scenario the place one ought to suppose when it comes to actual returns? For those who’re withdrawing greater than the actual return every year, wouldn’t the inflation adjusted dimension of your IRA even be shrinking even when the withdrawal is lower than the nominal return? Tax brackets are adjusted for inflation.
Re: Slott: The Big Retirement Myth
tibbitts wrote: ↑Solar Aug 25, 2024 9:03 pmmhadden1 wrote: ↑Solar Aug 25, 2024 7:08 pmtibbitts wrote: ↑Solar Aug 25, 2024 6:01 pmrs9876lg wrote: ↑Solar Aug 25, 2024 5:27 pm
Are you speaking about contributions made a number of occasions throughout your profession and distributions taken at a number of years throughout retirement?Has any individual executed cumulative evaluation utilizing time worth of cash? It won’t be simple to seek out actual common tax saved throughout accumulation and tax paid throughout distribution. Apart from we’re not actually inquisitive about tax however slightly what’s left after the tax. The mathematics can be extraordinarily difficult and I won’t even perceive it!
I believe everyone is counting on planning software program to do the mathematics – both via a product they buy or software program they develop themselves. At the very least to me the mathematics appears extraordinarily difficult.
I would slightly pay at a decrease price, so easy.
True, except paying at the next price would go away you a decrease quantity to spend. You’ll be able to usually pay at a decrease price by selecting what are probably lower-performing investments or giving freely cash, however that may depart each you and the taxing authorities with much less cash.
I am not doing it that method.
Retired 12/31/2015, age 58 years 77 days (however who’s counting?)
