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Should I add a 240v outlet for future kitchen range options in new construction?
I’m within the PNW so electrical is reasonable. The one issues that can be gasoline in the home is the vary, fire, and out of doors grill.
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Completely. That is a good value for an outlet for an amazing development/choice future. Then you definitely could be in a great place to completely dump gasoline service. I perceive that they don’t seem to be placing wooden fireplaces in anymore, and am nonetheless a bit shocked at how fashionable they’re. We had a horrid fire – large stone wall, bench,took up 1/3 of the wall area… and the room appears to be like a lot cleaner and extra trendy with out it! Propane for BBQ. I’d not hard-connect any gasoline in a brand new home nowadays…..
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Re: Should I add a 240v outlet for future kitchen range options in new construction?
czaj wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:43 am
Constructing a brand new home and it comes with a gasoline vary. Ought to I’ve the builder put in a 240v outlet for flexibility sooner or later? I consider it will likely be $550, however want to verify value.I’m within the PNW so electrical is reasonable. The one issues that can be gasoline in the home is the vary, fire, and out of doors grill.
Sure.
Additionally for dryer in again of the unit.
Fuel and energy provide.
Water heater
Fuel and energy provide.
Additionally, xtra 20 amp retailers within the storage if you’ll put a fridge and / or a full dimension freezer in there.
Storage
20 amps each 6-8 toes as an alternative of code 12 toes. And on extra circuits.
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Re: Should I add a 240v outlet for future kitchen range options in new construction?
czaj wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:43 am
Constructing a brand new home and it comes with a gasoline vary. Ought to I’ve the builder put in a 240v outlet for flexibility sooner or later? I consider it will likely be $550, however want to verify value.I’m within the PNW so electrical is reasonable. The one issues that can be gasoline in the home is the vary, fire, and out of doors grill.
I’d advocate placing in all of the choices now you can, whereas the partitions are open and energy traces accessible. Means higher to spend $550 to do that now, somewhat than come again in 10 years and want you had put within the 240V
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Bigger homes are going with 400 amp service nowadays with electrical home equipment, swimming pools, and EV chargers somewhat than extra commonplace 200 amp service.
Re: Should I add a 240v outlet for future kitchen range options in new construction?
czaj wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:43 am
Constructing a brand new home and it comes with a gasoline vary. Ought to I’ve the builder put in a 240v outlet for flexibility sooner or later? I consider it will likely be $550, however want to verify value.I’m within the PNW so electrical is reasonable. The one issues that can be gasoline in the home is the vary, fire, and out of doors grill.
Sure. Put in a 40A if the vary is 30″ extensive. Put in a 50A whether it is 36″ extensive or wider.
The opposite factor to contemplate is the place else you might have considered trying gasoline retailers if all the pieces else is electrical. Issues that may sometimes can run on both are:
Furnace (3/4″ pipe).
Garments dryer (1/2″ pipe).
Water heater, particularly if contemplating a tankless water heater. Use a 3/4″ pipe.
Having electrical and gasoline choices in any respect of these places offers you essentially the most flexibility for the long run, though utilizing would require some venting selections. Water heaters can direct vent by a wall if no chimney, and most furnaces now will use PVC pipe to exhaust the gasoline as a result of it recovers a lot warmth from the gasoline exhaust earlier than venting it.
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Re: Should I add a 240v outlet for future kitchen range options in new construction?
For the reason that day we purchased that single induction burner, we’ve not used the gasoline vary that we had beforehand used for 10+ years. I curse at any time when I am touring (e.g. both of our dad and mom home) and need to prepare dinner on gasoline now because it’s cumbersome and we won’t management the warmth. I am a greater prepare dinner with induction.
Additionally, we not sweat on our meals each time we prepare dinner. 
Abstract: If I had been to ever transfer, I’d 100% think about the price of eliminating gasoline and putting in induction. So chances are you’ll wish to take into account the price of that functionality as one thing that you could be recoup later.
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I’d not simply “throw in” 240V however get down with what particularly you’re planning for and the place it could be put in.
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dbr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:56 pm
As a few posts point out it isn’t simply the voltage but in addition the amperage that’s wanted. The amperage is extra vital to the design as this dictates the wire gauge used. I’ve twin electrical ovens at 50A and picture an induction cooktop takes a separate 40A. A cooktop and range in a single unit could be totally different. To assist each an induction cooktop and a separate electrical oven if needed, you want two circuits. The capability of the service entrance must be chosen to assist the potential want. Many such gadgets are doubtless exhausting wired somewhat than plugged into an “outlet.”I’d not simply “throw in” 240V however get down with what particularly you’re planning for and the place it could be put in.
Good callout. I’ll verify that it will likely be a minimum of 40-50 amps. The present area is ready up for 30″ equipment, so I assume 40 amps will work.
I haven’t got a particular equipment as this doubtless will not be for 5-10 years, however will very doubtless be for a mixed equipment (both induction + oven, or gasoline vary with electrical oven).
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just frank wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:01 pm
Whereas the fireside and grill are good on gasoline, I would skip the gasoline vary and simply go to induction, which is superior to gasoline, more healthy, and future proof.
Would by no means once more have Nat gasoline grill. Changing grill is a ache since you’re breaking a gasoline line. Locks in location. Most likely rather more restricted collection of grills until you possibly can report.
Now for cooking, certain go gasoline vary (not oven). Induction is nice however gasoline is best. Imo fire is private alternative. I like actual wooden and luxuriate in splitting my very own however definitely see worth within the instantaneous on off of a great gasoline FP. Imo the extra you propose to truly use it, the extra I vote wooden.
I wooden additionally go gasoline water heater. I desire gasoline warmth, however perceive folks selecting electrical
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Sandtrap wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:18 pmczaj wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:43 am
Constructing a brand new home and it comes with a gasoline vary. Ought to I’ve the builder put in a 240v outlet for flexibility sooner or later? I consider it will likely be $550, however want to verify value.I’m within the PNW so electrical is reasonable. The one issues that can be gasoline in the home is the vary, fire, and out of doors grill.
Sure.
Additionally for dryer in again of the unit.
Fuel and energy provide.Water heater
Fuel and energy provide.Additionally, xtra 20 amp retailers within the storage if you’ll put a fridge and / or a full dimension freezer in there.
Storage
20 amps each 6-8 toes as an alternative of code 12 toes. And on extra circuits.j
Acquired each a fridge and a freezer in storage. Fairly certain collectively they don’t pull 20A. I’ve a mixture of 15 and 20 amp circuits in storage however most are commonplace 15A besides couple for heavy energy instruments. Not optimistic if freezer and fridge are on identical circuit or not, however undoubtedly are usually not on a 20A circuit. Additional retailers, sure
Re: Should I add a 240v outlet for future kitchen range options in new construction?
Sandtrap wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:18 pmczaj wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:43 am
Constructing a brand new home and it comes with a gasoline vary. Ought to I’ve the builder put in a 240v outlet for flexibility sooner or later? I consider it will likely be $550, however want to verify value.I’m within the PNW so electrical is reasonable. The one issues that can be gasoline in the home is the vary, fire, and out of doors grill.
Sure.
Additionally for dryer in again of the unit.
Fuel and energy provide.Water heater
Fuel and energy provide.Additionally, xtra 20 amp retailers within the storage if you’ll put a fridge and / or a full dimension freezer in there.
Storage
20 amps each 6-8 toes as an alternative of code 12 toes. And on extra circuits.j
and remember a 48/60 amp line within the storage for the long run EV.
Re: Should I add a 240v outlet for future kitchen range options in new construction?
czaj wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 3:51 pmdbr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:56 pm
As a few posts point out it isn’t simply the voltage but in addition the amperage that’s wanted. The amperage is extra vital to the design as this dictates the wire gauge used. I’ve twin electrical ovens at 50A and picture an induction cooktop takes a separate 40A. A cooktop and range in a single unit could be totally different. To assist each an induction cooktop and a separate electrical oven if needed, you want two circuits. The capability of the service entrance must be chosen to assist the potential want. Many such gadgets are doubtless exhausting wired somewhat than plugged into an “outlet.”I’d not simply “throw in” 240V however get down with what particularly you’re planning for and the place it could be put in.
Good callout. I’ll verify that it will likely be a minimum of 40-50 amps. The present area is ready up for 30″ equipment, so I assume 40 amps will work.
I haven’t got a particular equipment as this doubtless will not be for 5-10 years, however will very doubtless be for a mixed equipment (both induction + oven, or gasoline vary with electrical oven).
Go 50A. Incremental price is marginal. Can all the time downsize breaker if desired however can’t up dimension wires after the very fact simply. However as famous present gasoline choice for future heater, water heater (together with for bogs and kitchen,) prepare dinner prime/vary, garments dryer and possibly oven
As to the push for induction vary, induction is nice however gasoline is best and extra versatile. If I used to be constructing my home once more at the moment, I’d go induction however solely as a result of gasoline shouldn’t be an choice as no gasoline traces to hook up with right here.
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1) Electrical outlet close to your bathroom should you ever wish to put in a bidet.
2) By way of plumbing, see if you may get entry to bathe fixtures from a closet
3) Examine you water stress and set up a stress reducer if wanted – the PNW is hilly and your tank could also be at far and elevation.
4) Put in a much bigger panel with room to develop.
5) I’ve a number of 240 V retailers within the storage for instruments.
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edgeagg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:55 pm
BTW listed here are different issues to contemplate:1) Electrical outlet close to your bathroom should you ever wish to put in a bidet.
2) By way of plumbing, see if you may get entry to bathe fixtures from a closet
3) Examine you water stress and set up a stress reducer if wanted – the PNW is hilly and your tank could also be at far and elevation.
4) Put in a much bigger panel with room to develop.
5) I’ve a number of 240 V retailers within the storage for instruments.
Which instruments for round home use 240V?
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We did a to-the-studs renovation on a home earlier than we moved in. The home was initially piped for a gasoline range and that is what we put in. Nevertheless since all the electrical was being redone we had a circuit and outlet for an electrical range put in as effectively. So now we have got the choice to go electrical any time we would like. When you’ve got gasoline warmth chances are you’ll wish to take into account offering for an electrical circuit choice for that as effectively. There is a motion in California to lower using gasoline home equipment so that might unfold.
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