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No, Trump Did Not Name Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists 'Very Wonderful Folks'

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June 20, 2024
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On Aug. 15, 2017, then-President Donald Trump known as neo-Nazis and white supremacists who attended the Unite the Proper rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, “very high quality individuals.”

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In a information convention after the rally protesting the deliberate removing of a Accomplice statue, Trump did say there have been “very high quality individuals on either side,” referring to the protesters and the counterprotesters. He stated in the identical assertion he wasn’t speaking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists, who he stated must be “condemned completely.”

On Aug. 11 and 12, 2017, the so-called Unite the Right rally protesting the deliberate removing of a statue of Accomplice Gen. Robert E. Lee from a park in Charlottesville, Virginia, turned violent when neo-Nazis, white supremacists and others linked to far-right teams clashed with leftist counterprotesters. One self-identified white supremacist rammed his automotive right into a crowd of individuals, killing one and injuring at the least 19.

Richard B. Spencer and Jason Kessler — each white nationalists — deliberate the rally, and David Duke, a former chief of the Ku Klux Klan, attended.

In an Aug. 15 information convention, then-U.S. President Donald Trump was requested to touch upon the occasion and famously stated there have been “very high quality individuals on either side.” This response obtained widespread backlash; many claimed Trump had put neo-Nazis and counterprotesters on the “similar ethical airplane.”

Particularly, Trump’s critics claimed he known as the neo-Nazis and white supremacists on the rally “very fine people.” This declare unfold like wildfire, with then-presidential candidate Joe Biden making Trump’s feedback on Charlottesville a cornerstone of his campaign

Senate Majority Chief Chuck Schumer said in a speech that “no one who breaks bread with antisemites like Nick Fuentes, and who known as white supremacists in Charlottesville ‘excellent individuals,’ or who, as was just lately reported, stated disgustingly that Hitler did some good issues, has any proper to lecture Jewish Individuals about their private political views.”

Trump’s supporters have constantly claimed that he really condemned the neo-Nazis and white supremacists on the rally. 

We regarded into these claims, and located that whereas Trump did say there have been “very high quality individuals on either side,” which means each the protesters and the counterprotesters, he additionally condemned neo-Nazis and white nationalists outright and stated he was particularly referring to those that had been there solely to take part within the statue protest. We discovered the unique clip on C-SPAN, and transcribed the related part under:

Reporter: Mr. President, are you placing what you are calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the identical ethical airplane?

Trump: I’m not placing anyone on an ethical airplane, what I am saying is that this: You had a gaggle on one facet and a gaggle on the opposite, and so they got here at one another with golf equipment and it was vicious and horrible and it was a horrible factor to observe, however there’s one other facet. There was a gaggle on this facet, you may name them the left. You’ve got simply known as them the left, that got here violently attacking the opposite group. So you may say what you need, however that is the way in which it’s.

Reporter: You stated there was hatred and violence on either side?

Trump: I do suppose there’s blame — sure, I feel there’s blame on either side. You take a look at, you take a look at either side. I feel there’s blame on either side, and I’ve little question about it, and you have no doubt about it both. And, and, and, and if you happen to reported it precisely, you’d say.

Reporter: The neo-Nazis began this factor. They confirmed up in Charlottesville.

Trump: Excuse me, they did not put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and also you had some very dangerous individuals in that group. However you additionally had those who had been very high quality individuals, on either side. You had individuals in that group — excuse me, excuse me, I noticed the identical footage as you probably did — you had individuals in that group that had been there to protest the taking down of, to them, a really crucial statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to a different identify. George Washington was a slave proprietor. Was George Washington a slave proprietor? So will George Washington now lose his standing, are we gonna take down — excuse me — are we gonna take down statues of George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you consider Thomas Jefferson? You want him? Okay good. Are we gonna take down the statue? Trigger he was a serious slaveowner. Now are we gonna take down his statue? So you already know what? It is high quality. You are altering historical past, you are altering tradition, and also you had individuals — and I am not speaking concerning the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, as a result of they need to be condemned completely. However you had many individuals in that group aside from neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay? And the press has handled them completely unfairly. Now, within the different group additionally, you had some high quality individuals, however you additionally had troublemakers, and also you see them include the black outfits, and with the helmets, and the baseball bats, you bought numerous dangerous individuals within the different group too.

Reporter: I am sorry sir, I did not perceive what you had been saying, you had been saying the press has handled white nationalists unfairly? I do not perceive what you are saying.

Trump: No, no. There have been individuals in that rally — and I regarded the night time earlier than — if you happen to look, there have been individuals protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I am certain in that group there was some dangerous ones. The next day it regarded like they’d some tough, dangerous individuals. Neo-Nazis, white nationalists, no matter you wanna name them. However you had lots of people in that group that had been there to innocently protest — and really legally protest — as a result of I do not know if you already know, they’d a allow. The opposite group did not have a allow. So I solely inform you this, there are two sides to a narrative. I believed what came about was a horrible second for our nation. A horrible second. However there are two sides to the nation.

Regardless of Trump’s express condemnation of neo-Nazis and white nationalists, nearly all of far-right leaders and teams received the speech positively.

“Thanks President Trump in your honesty & braveness to inform the reality about #Charlottesville & condemn the leftist terrorists in BLM/Antifa,” Duke, a former KKK grand wizard, posted on X in response to Trump’s feedback.

We have beforehand fact-checked the declare that Trump refused to explicitly condemn white supremacists through the September 2020 presidential debate. 

In sum, whereas Trump did say that there have been “very high quality individuals on either side,” he additionally particularly famous that he was not speaking about neo-Nazis and white supremacists and stated they need to be “condemned completely.” Subsequently, we’ve rated this declare “False.”

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