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Re: Power line through farm
lostinjersey wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:30 pm
I don’t perceive how this cuts the property in half. We’ve got an enormous energy line working by our wheat subject. We farm across the footprint/base of the giants. Nothing is split for the reason that energy traces themselves are so excessive within the sky.What am I lacking?
Which is why I included that image above.
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Re: Power line through farm
toddthebod wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:36 pmlostinjersey wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:30 pm
I don’t perceive how this cuts the property in half. We’ve got an enormous energy line working by our wheat subject. We farm across the footprint/base of the giants. Nothing is split for the reason that energy traces themselves are so excessive within the sky.What am I lacking?
Which is why I included that image above.
I noticed the pic however nonetheless don’t observe. Will the easement not enable use of the land by the proprietor? Our line seems precisely just like the pic, and the one actual influence is farming across the big bases. The remainder of the land remains to be farmed like there isn’t any easement or energy line above it.
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Re: Power line through farm
lostinjersey wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:49 pmtoddthebod wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:36 pmlostinjersey wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:30 pm
I don’t perceive how this cuts the property in half. We’ve got an enormous energy line working by our wheat subject. We farm across the footprint/base of the giants. Nothing is split for the reason that energy traces themselves are so excessive within the sky.What am I lacking?
Which is why I included that image above.
I noticed the pic however nonetheless don’t observe. Will the easement not enable use of the land by the proprietor? Our line seems precisely just like the pic, and the one actual influence is farming across the big bases. The remainder of the land remains to be farmed like there isn’t any easement or energy line above it.
I am agreeing with you. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.
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Re: Power line through farm
toddthebod wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:07 pmlostinjersey wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:49 pmtoddthebod wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:36 pmlostinjersey wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:30 pm
I don’t perceive how this cuts the property in half. We’ve got an enormous energy line working by our wheat subject. We farm across the footprint/base of the giants. Nothing is split for the reason that energy traces themselves are so excessive within the sky.What am I lacking?
Which is why I included that image above.
I noticed the pic however nonetheless don’t observe. Will the easement not enable use of the land by the proprietor? Our line seems precisely just like the pic, and the one actual influence is farming across the big bases. The remainder of the land remains to be farmed like there isn’t any easement or energy line above it.
I am agreeing with you. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.
Ahh gotcha! I assumed you have been explaining the division, not agreeing that there isn’t one.
Re: Power line through farm
Mr. Potter wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 10:14 am
I’m not making an attempt to be deceptive and possibly characterised this thread incorrectly. sorry
The undertaking is the Zachary to Locust Creek Transmission. They’ve notified landowners there shall be an easement on their property to accommodate a 345k to 506k transmission line for a newly constructed photo voltaic farm roughly 5 miles away. The facility is meant to service a city roughly 35 miles away and the road is proposed to run by her property. In a current assembly they knowledgeable my MIL they’re doubtless putting in a 2nd line, each on the South facet of her property. If that’s not dangerous sufficient there’s a robust chance of a third line on the North of her property. Clearly this may devastate the character and worth of the property. My MIL has not acquired a proposal but for her easement however primarily based on different landowners it’s peanuts and a onetime cost. The property just isn’t a sq. plot extra L formed so the proposed route shall be reducing off a big part,(40 acres) which shall be landlocked except new entry roads are constructed. The overall acreage is 120. This at one time was a working farm now it’s principally wooded with pastures with overgrown grass.
A 506kV transmission line does not make any sense. It seems like they’re speaking a couple of double circuit line. Considered one of them being 345 and the opposite a 161. For some purpose they added 345 and 161 and got here up 506, smh. Utilities did not wish to construct some time bunch of single circuit towers. They’re dearer, time consuming, and require extra land rights.
One thing to notice, upon getting a circuit going by your property there’s a larger probability that one other circuit shall be positioned there if a line has to run the same route. It’s because it’s simpler to broaden a proper of method then to get a model new route.
One thing else to think about, relying on line design requirements, and planning contingency evaluation, you could possibly push the utility to triple circuit development (three circuits on the identical tower). This is able to lower down on the footprint.
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Will any towers be situated on the property or is it simply overhead wires? A tower would trigger far more lack of worth than simply overhead traces.
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Re: Power line through farm
Parkinglotracer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 8:11 amWay more costly to bury … nicely not less than initially and that’s all many funds for.
10x dearer is the quantity that will get thrown round (I do not know if there’s any justification for it, however 5x at a minimal would appear affordable). Be aware fuel mains and electrical energy transmission corridors are generally on the identical stretch of floor, I consider – ie with the fuel line underground.
Additionally there are overheating and capability points (actually, the identical factor) in an underground line.
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It may actually be metered and even have an higher restrict on offtake per day or lifetime. I see no purpose they would not do it. Simply prices have a transformer drop.
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Re: Power line through farm
snackdog wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:31 amIt may actually be metered and even have an higher restrict on offtake per day or lifetime. I see no purpose they would not do it. Simply prices have a transformer drop.
The price of a transformer from a 400 kv line to a say 240v home service? I think about that might be actually costly. There is a purpose these connections are usually pretty giant blocks of transformers, in fenced off enclosures?
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Valuethinker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:02 amsnackdog wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:31 amIt may actually be metered and even have an higher restrict on offtake per day or lifetime. I see no purpose they would not do it. Simply prices have a transformer drop.
The price of a transformer from a 400 kv line to a say 240v home service? I think about that might be actually costly. There is a purpose these connections are usually pretty giant blocks of transformers, in fenced off enclosures?
A big energy transformer such as you’re describing would doubtless value greater than this complete property.
The best way this is able to truly be achieved is with a station service voltage transformer related to a single part. Which is extra akin to an instrumentation system, however nonetheless enough for a single rural property. Nonetheless, that is nonetheless most likely ~$50k for materials alone. It isn’t an awesome design for a property which could be served from an present distribution system.
Re: Power line through farm
Mr. Potter wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 7:40 am
The one ace within the gap is there’s an adjoining cemetery on the other facet of the proposed transmission traces that and there are Indian artifacts in all places. We discover arrowheads routinely when strolling the property, possibly there’s Indian burial grounds?
In case you have a official cultural web site in your property it may trigger the powerlines to be rerouted. I would go away any artifacts the place you discovered them. Somebody must rent an archeologist to make the willpower.
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In our space the federal government needed so as to add a brand new on/off ramp system to the freeway, which was going to take some land from a cemetery. The cemetery constructed a big costly mausoleum close to the freeway, making the land too costly. The ramps weren’t constructed.
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Re: Power line through farm
MrNarwhal wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 5:34 pmValuethinker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:02 amsnackdog wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:31 amIt may actually be metered and even have an higher restrict on offtake per day or lifetime. I see no purpose they would not do it. Simply prices have a transformer drop.
The price of a transformer from a 400 kv line to a say 240v home service? I think about that might be actually costly. There is a purpose these connections are usually pretty giant blocks of transformers, in fenced off enclosures?
A big energy transformer such as you’re describing would doubtless value greater than this complete property.
The best way this is able to truly be achieved is with a station service voltage transformer related to a single part. Which is extra akin to an instrumentation system, however nonetheless enough for a single rural property. Nonetheless, that is nonetheless most likely ~$50k for materials alone. It isn’t an awesome design for a property which could be served from an present distribution system.
thanks – very attention-grabbing.
We get so used to expertise performing miracles, that we get annoyed when it constrains us in very “strange” methods.
HV electrical energy transmission is an attention-grabbing space, and I perceive that there is various attention-grabbing work occurring, eg in digitisation. However basically it most likely hasn’t modified that a lot in 50 years? And the parameters of the electrical energy system have been fastened for a very long time*.
* I believe I learn that Los Angeles was on 25 Hz energy till the late Nineteen Forties? And there have been nonetheless some NYC house buildings on, I believe, 18 Hz? So even attending to the present electrical energy system was not a easy “suddenly”.
I do know thermal energy stations saved scaling up in dimension, reaching a peak with an Allis-Chalmers turbine “Massive Al(lis)” that Conn Ed put in within the Sixties. However that they haven’t elevated in per unit dimension since then. My father used to speak about Massive Al.
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Re: Power line through farm
snackdog wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:31 amIt may actually be metered and even have an higher restrict on offtake per day or lifetime. I see no purpose they would not do it. Simply prices have a transformer drop.
There’s a huge distinction between what’s technically possible and what’s primarily based in actuality. This is not primarily based in actuality. Giant buyer particular price pricing is a big hurdle for utilities to work out. Organising free electrical energy to a single use buyer in a perpetual contract is simply humorous.
