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What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
Rockbottomdweller wrote: ↑Solar Feb 25, 2024 3:32 pm
I am studying “The Boglehead’s Information To Investing.” On web page 203, beneath the subhead, “Easy methods to observe your portfolio,” the e-book mentions Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch, a free service on-line. I’m unable to seek out it. Has it been changed with one thing else? What instruments are finest for monitoring my portfolio?Thanks!
One you could have an account with Vanguard, you possibly can enter your different holdings. It is fairly fundamental. There are higher instruments on the market.
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
I do not consider PW is obtainable if you do not have a V account as it really works by analyzing the holdings in your V accounts and any non-V property that you have entered for monitoring functions.
An fyi: at occasions up to now the inventory evaluation in PW makes important and unexplained adjustments within the measurement percentages of my portfolio that is attributed to small, med, and huge cap shares. I believe this may increasingly have occurred when there’s been adjustments in underlying index elements (i.e., shares getting listed or delisted into an index), however I am not sure.
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
exodusNH wrote: ↑Solar Feb 25, 2024 3:38 pmRockbottomdweller wrote: ↑Solar Feb 25, 2024 3:32 pm
I am studying “The Boglehead’s Information To Investing.” On web page 203, beneath the subhead, “Easy methods to observe your portfolio,” the e-book mentions Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch, a free service on-line. I’m unable to seek out it. Has it been changed with one thing else? What instruments are finest for monitoring my portfolio?Thanks!
One you could have an account with Vanguard, you possibly can enter your different holdings. It is fairly fundamental. There are higher instruments on the market.
What different instruments do you suppose are higher, and is there a easy and safe solution to import all the info?
Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
Rocinante Rider wrote: ↑Solar Feb 25, 2024 3:49 pmexodusNH wrote: ↑Solar Feb 25, 2024 3:38 pmRockbottomdweller wrote: ↑Solar Feb 25, 2024 3:32 pm
I am studying “The Boglehead’s Information To Investing.” On web page 203, beneath the subhead, “Easy methods to observe your portfolio,” the e-book mentions Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch, a free service on-line. I’m unable to seek out it. Has it been changed with one thing else? What instruments are finest for monitoring my portfolio?Thanks!
One you could have an account with Vanguard, you possibly can enter your different holdings. It is fairly fundamental. There are higher instruments on the market.
What different instruments do you suppose are higher, and is there a easy and safe solution to import all the info?
I need to supply a opposite opinion. I believe Portfolio Watch is superb. However I assume it relies on what you are attempting to trace. It tells me every part I am thinking about, and I do not really feel any want to seek out one other software and determine learn how to get all my holdings entered into it.
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
connor wrote: ↑Solar Feb 25, 2024 4:00 pmRocinante Rider wrote: ↑Solar Feb 25, 2024 3:49 pmexodusNH wrote: ↑Solar Feb 25, 2024 3:38 pmRockbottomdweller wrote: ↑Solar Feb 25, 2024 3:32 pm
I am studying “The Boglehead’s Information To Investing.” On web page 203, beneath the subhead, “Easy methods to observe your portfolio,” the e-book mentions Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch, a free service on-line. I’m unable to seek out it. Has it been changed with one thing else? What instruments are finest for monitoring my portfolio?Thanks!
One you could have an account with Vanguard, you possibly can enter your different holdings. It is fairly fundamental. There are higher instruments on the market.
What different instruments do you suppose are higher, and is there a easy and safe solution to import all the info?
I need to supply a opposite opinion. I believe Portfolio Watch is superb. However I assume it relies on what you are attempting to trace. It tells me every part I am thinking about, and I do not really feel any want to seek out one other software and determine learn how to get all my holdings entered into it.
I am truly in settlement with you on this, however I am open to ideas, and even simply easy confirmations. PW positively has been assembly all of my wants fairly effectively. Though I would not thoughts seeing what one other software needed to say, I additionally would not expend a lot effort to take action. I doubt that any variance in comparative evaluation would throw me out of the ballpark or be important sufficient for me to make any portfolio adjustments.
Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
Vanguard Portfolio Watch
Schwab Portfolio Verify-up
Constancy Evaluation
All of them usually undergo from stale information — normally costs should not at all times updated. Every has their quirks. However all agree if every part is up-to-date. Beneath are display grabs of the overviews, although every have extra particulars to indicate with a click on or scroll.
Vanguard Portfolio Watch
Schwab Portfolio Checkup
Constancy Evaluation
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
UpperNwGuy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:58 pm
Looks like Vanguard has made adjustments to Portfolio Watch in the previous couple of weeks. It has misplaced numerous performance. Has anybody else observed?
Simply now it appears the identical to me because it has been for about 6 months or extra.
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
livesoft wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:00 pmUpperNwGuy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:58 pm
Looks like Vanguard has made adjustments to Portfolio Watch in the previous couple of weeks. It has misplaced numerous performance. Has anybody else observed?Simply now it appears the identical to me because it has been for about 6 months or extra.
You used to have the ability to outline various portfolios that had been subsets of your complete holdings. I now not see that characteristic. I used this characteristic lower than two months in the past after I did some rebalancing.
Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
UpperNwGuy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:00 pm
You used to have the ability to outline various portfolios that had been subsets of your complete holdings. I now not see that characteristic. I used this characteristic lower than two months in the past after I did some rebalancing.
I believe you might be referring to the power to make customized teams. That perform continues to be there; at the least it’s on my display.
Click on on “Portfolio Watch.” Are your customized teams displaying on the left facet of the display? Scroll to the underside of that window and it ought to say “Account panel settings.”
Should you do not see your customized teams, they is likely to be hidden. Look to the left of the place it says “Dashboard.” There needs to be a black circle containing a black rectangle and a white rectangle. Click on it to carry up your customized teams.
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
henry wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:32 pmUpperNwGuy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:00 pm
You used to have the ability to outline various portfolios that had been subsets of your complete holdings. I now not see that characteristic. I used this characteristic lower than two months in the past after I did some rebalancing.I believe you might be referring to the power to make customized teams. That perform continues to be there; at the least it’s on my display.
Click on on “Portfolio Watch.” Are your customized teams displaying on the left facet of the display? Scroll to the underside of that window and it ought to say “Account panel settings.”
Should you do not see your customized teams, they is likely to be hidden. Look to the left of the place it says “Dashboard.” There needs to be a black circle containing a black rectangle and a white rectangle. Click on it to carry up your customized teams.
Sure! Customized Teams is precisely what I used to be searching for. The performance did not change. The person interface modified. I ponder why Vanguard modified the person interface from one which was intuitive to 1 that isn’t. Who would have thought that an unlabeled black circle containing a black rectangle and a white rectangle could be the key doorway to a characteristic that was once a part of the principle Portfolio Watch display?
Thanks for serving to me break the code.
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
In addition they eliminated the power to set a share for “different” whenever you set your goal, nevertheless it nonetheless annoyingly seems whenever you view your present portfolio. I’ve our “outdoors investments” entered (largely as a solution to double examine my spreadsheet) and VG doesn’t supply a manner for me to categorise some issues, and lists them as “different”. That is tremendous. However up till a number of months in the past, I may set a share as “different”.
It is a minor annoyance to me, nevertheless it’s at all times humorous to see a change like this- deliberate, clearly, however for no good cause that I can consider.
I like PW as a result of now we have a number of funds, and a few (Wellesley) are blends, so it’s (was) good to have a software that is correct for checking AA.
Cheers
Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
UpperNwGuy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:58 amhenry wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:32 pmUpperNwGuy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:00 pm
You used to have the ability to outline various portfolios that had been subsets of your complete holdings. I now not see that characteristic. I used this characteristic lower than two months in the past after I did some rebalancing.I believe you might be referring to the power to make customized teams. That perform continues to be there; at the least it’s on my display.
Click on on “Portfolio Watch.” Are your customized teams displaying on the left facet of the display? Scroll to the underside of that window and it ought to say “Account panel settings.”
Should you do not see your customized teams, they is likely to be hidden. Look to the left of the place it says “Dashboard.” There needs to be a black circle containing a black rectangle and a white rectangle. Click on it to carry up your customized teams.
Sure! Customized Teams is precisely what I used to be searching for. The performance did not change. The person interface modified. I ponder why Vanguard modified the person interface from one which was intuitive to 1 that isn’t. Who would have thought that an unlabeled black circle containing a black rectangle and a white rectangle could be the key doorway to a characteristic that was once a part of the principle Portfolio Watch display?
Thanks for serving to me break the code.
I am glad it helped and agree it is not intuitive. I do not recall seeing that icon (the black circle containing a black rectangle and white rectangle) earlier than on another web site and it’s not apparent that it is even an icon or what clicking it can do.
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
In addition they have these (form of annoying) portfolio alerts that come up, recommending now a rise to 1’s inventory portfolio of 35% to 55% in worldwide shares and to have in your bond allocation at the least 20% in worldwide bonds. I am not that impressed by the long-term efficiency of their worldwide bond index, although their rising bond has executed fairly effectively over time. However not value having 20%. I do not get hung up over their suggestions, although I would slightly want I may simply click on on them to go away, because it’s simply distracting, as if I am doing one thing flawed by not following them. I am not — I simply do not suppose they need to be that a lot of my portfolio.
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
A relative of ours is considering transferring every part from his financial institution to Vanguard. If he needs to arrange a easy three fund portfolio, will Vanguard’s Portfolio Checkup software present him the proportion every fund makes up of the full portfolio?
All he is involved about is monitoring how a lot is within the Whole Inventory Market ETF (VTI), Whole Worldwide (VXUS) and Whole Bond (BND). He needs to see these first earlier than entering into any particular breakdowns between asset lessons.
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
A relative of ours is considering transferring every part from his financial institution to Vanguard. If he needs to arrange a easy three fund portfolio, will Vanguard’s Portfolio Checkup software present him the combination share every fund makes up (throughout all accounts) of the full portfolio?
All he is involved about is monitoring for rebalancing functions how a lot (as a share of the full portfolio) is within the Whole Inventory Market ETF (VTI), Whole Worldwide (VXUS) and Whole Bond (BND) at any given time. He can then determine learn how to rebalance between accounts.
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
BetaTracker wrote: ↑Solar Apr 21, 2024 1:55 am
A relative of ours is considering transferring every part from his financial institution to Vanguard. If he needs to arrange a easy three fund portfolio, will Vanguard’s Portfolio Checkup software present him the combination share every fund makes up (throughout all accounts) of the full portfolio?
All he is involved about is monitoring for rebalancing functions how a lot (as a share of the full portfolio) is within the Whole Inventory Market ETF (VTI), Whole Worldwide (VXUS) and Whole Bond (BND) at any given time. He can then determine learn how to rebalance between accounts.
Beta-tracker, Portfolio Watch is fairly fundamental. It doesn’t break it down into the three funds, however it’s shut sufficient.
Portfolio Watch reveals in separate graphs:
See livesoft’s put up above for what it seems like.
There’s additionally a software that will work as a rebalancing software, however with a easy portfolio, simply doing it by hand would virtually be easier (at the least for me).
As for extra particular details about asset lessons, I’ve not discovered any data in portfolio watch about that.
Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
Presently, Portfolio Watch says that my holdings in Vanguard REIT index are uncategorized by sector, and that the Whole Inventory Market and Rising Markets Index in my taxable account should not index-funds and are thus not tax-efficient. (Additionally, whereas this isn’t a knowledge error, Portfolio Watch says that my issue ETFs are tax-inefficient. Whereas they’re technically energetic, they’ve the tax benefit of ETFs, and have by no means distributed a capital acquire.)
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
grabiner wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:38 pm
Portfolio Watch may very well be helpful in principle, however information errors are so widespread that you just can not belief the outcomes. You may verify this by viewing a breakdown for fund.Presently, Portfolio Watch says that my holdings in Vanguard REIT index are uncategorized by sector, and that the Whole Inventory Market and Rising Markets Index in my taxable account should not index-funds and are thus not tax-efficient. (Additionally, whereas this isn’t a knowledge error, Portfolio Watch says that my issue ETFs are tax-inefficient. Whereas they’re technically energetic, they’ve the tax benefit of ETFs, and have by no means distributed a capital acquire.)
Any such software can solely be pretty much as good because the fund/safety information. When there have been issues with Vanguard bond funds, I reported to the Vanguard fastened earnings desk and usually the info was corrected inside a number of weeks. For non-Vanguard funds information comes from outdoors (m* I consider) and more durable for Vanguard to right such information.
I agree the tax effectivity evaluation is flawed (possible because of dangerous information) however different options are helpful.
I’ve additionally reported some logic flaws. These are more durable to get Vanguard to repair. Greatest one impacts brokerage accts, the place PW double counts trades, in {that a} purchase provides a brand new safety however doesn’t exclude the money used to buy, till settle date. This throws off the whole AA and all % of portfolio calculations. Fixes itself after commerce settlement. I exclude the settlement fund to get round this.
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
I do not use Portfolio Watch usually (simply yearly for rebabalancing). however through the years it has gotten more durable and more durable to make use of. Enhancing varied teams was once straightforward and intuitive, and so on. Now, it has gotten arduous to even discover the place enhancing will be executed.
The experiences it generates are additionally a lot much less helpful than they was once. All the things now appears to be “dumbed down” to ridiculously massive and overly simplistic ring charts (I assume lots of people do detailed portfolio evaluation on their telephones so we should all endure big fonts and kindergarten graphics?).
It is most likely only a coincidence that Vanguard has progressively made PW more durable to function and fewer helpful on the similar time they’ve more and more pushed purchasers to pay for Vanguard advisors to deal with all of the portfolio evaluation for them.
I miss Jack. There, I stated it.
Mark
Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
vigilant104 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:01 pm
A gripe:
I do not use Portfolio Watch usually (simply yearly for rebabalancing). however through the years it has gotten more durable and more durable to make use of. Enhancing varied teams was once straightforward and intuitive, and so on. Now, it has gotten arduous to even discover the place enhancing will be executed.The experiences it generates are additionally a lot much less helpful than they was once. All the things now appears to be “dumbed down” to ridiculously massive and overly simplistic ring charts (I assume lots of people do detailed portfolio evaluation on their telephones so we should all endure big fonts and kindergarten graphics?).
It is most likely only a coincidence that Vanguard has progressively made PW more durable to function and fewer helpful on the similar time they’ve more and more pushed purchasers to pay for Vanguard advisors to deal with all of the portfolio evaluation for them.
I miss Jack. There, I stated it.
Mark
I reported a bug within the group edit perform, they usually truly fastened it !
The largest ongoing challenge is information high quality, it’s essential to examine accuracy of how they break down funds. I’ve reported information errors for Vanguard and non-Vanguard funds, and all had been fastened, although at variable response occasions.
I’ve no ideas of utilizing PAS, and don’t miss the Jack Bogle days the place we mailed in paper slips to make fund deposits.
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
Maybe my downside is that I do not use it weekly. I simply use it as soon as per 12 months and so I rely upon issues being intuitive since I have never stored the steps dedicated to reminiscence from current repetition.
Tonight I added some new (outdoors Vanguard) property within the grasp display, they have not proven up in my (meant) customized group. And discovering my manner again to the asset entry display (seems like a spreadsheet desk, very straightforward to make use of) isn’t proving straightforward. Why is not there an “edit holdings” hyperlink on each web page of the Portfolio Watch perform? Why would not my “grasp web page” present every part I’ve entered with columns for every of my customized teams so I can simply tick-box every asset/holding in or out? The place do I edit customized teams? I do know this stuff was once straightforward to do.
I’ve struggled with this factor yearly since they “improved” it in about 2021. Sure, I do want they’d get the info proper (latency, and so on which continues to be apparently an issue), however the persistent burr beneath my saddle is the unfriendly person expertise. I do not suppose it could be arduous to considerably enhance the asset entry, enhancing, and customized group development capabilities.
Apologies for the rant.
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
vigilant104 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 9:19 pmMaybe my downside is that I do not use it weekly. I simply use it as soon as per 12 months and so I rely upon issues being intuitive since I have never stored the steps dedicated to reminiscence from current repetition.
Tonight I added some new (outdoors Vanguard) property within the grasp display, they have not proven up in my (meant) customized group. And discovering my manner again to the asset entry display (seems like a spreadsheet desk, very straightforward to make use of) isn’t proving straightforward. Why is not there an “edit holdings” hyperlink on each web page of the Portfolio Watch perform? Why would not my “grasp web page” present every part I’ve entered with columns for every of my customized teams so I can simply tick-box every asset/holding in or out? The place do I edit customized teams? I do know this stuff was once straightforward to do.
I’ve struggled with this factor yearly since they “improved” it in about 2021. Sure, I do want they’d get the info proper (latency, and so on which continues to be apparently an issue), however the persistent burr beneath my saddle is the unfriendly person expertise. I do not suppose it could be arduous to considerably enhance the asset entry, enhancing, and customized group development capabilities.
Apologies for the rant.
Should you add a brand new outdoors account to your “Holdings,” you could have to refresh the web page earlier than the brand new account integrates.
Should you click on on “Portfolio Watch,” your teams and customized teams seem in a column on the left. On the backside of the column, click on on “Account panel settings,” and that can open the “View and handle customized teams” web page, the place you possibly can “Create new group” or edit an present group by choosing the prevailing group within the “Account Group” drop-down field. You may then examine or uncheck the accounts that you just need to seem in that group.
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
That is basic, basic, basic Portfolio Watch. Typical. Simply typical. And has been for effectively over a decade. For so long as I have been paying consideration, Portfolio Watch has been grotesquely unreliable on its categorization of the composition of funds and ETFs.
It is not a uncommon one-off, it occurs on a regular basis. And it occurs on a regular basis even with Vanguard’s personal funds.
No person ought to belief Vanguard Portfolio Look ahead to something.
Again in March 2023, there was a difficulty that will have been humorous if it weren’t so unhappy. Found by RadAudit. This one did get fastened, finally.
nisiprius wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:03 pmOne thing is critically damaged in Portfolio Watch.Sure, I am getting the identical alert [“Some of your sector weightings differ from the market.”] Not a technicality, not a roundoff error, not a day-of-month vs end-of-month error. Damaged. Busted. Spurious. Faulty. Out to lunch. Unsuitable.
The smoking gun is that it says I’ve 0% invested within the Client Discretionary sector.
…Left, Portfolio Watch. Proper, sector weights of VTSAX, reduce and pasted (and I do imply reduce and pasted, as a result of they do not even record the sectors the identical manner) from the VTSAX net web page.
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
Rocinante Rider wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 8:10 am
Should you add a brand new outdoors account to your “Holdings,” you could have to refresh the web page earlier than the brand new account integrates.Should you click on on “Portfolio Watch,” your teams and customized teams seem in a column on the left. On the backside of the column, click on on “Account panel settings,” and that can open the “View and handle customized teams” web page, the place you possibly can “Create new group” or edit an present group by choosing the prevailing group within the “Account Group” drop-down field. You may then examine or uncheck the accounts that you just need to seem in that group.
Thanks for that, it helped. Then I re-discovered the display the place it’s potential to edit the holdings (my greatest problem is with the “outdoors of Vanguard” holdings).
I suppose one cause for my PW “challenges” is that I’m an agent for a number of different folks (MIL, daughter, and so on) and so I have to construct and ensure customized teams for every of us (and divide out sub-groups in some circumstances). As a result of the grasp record of “all holdings” AND all of the customized sub-group breakouts of those holdings would not seem on a single display, it at all times devolves all the way down to me with 20 sheets of paper cross checking the lists (as if this had been 1950).
Thanks once more!
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
Have you learnt of an easy-to-use various that you just’d recommend? I’ve entry to eMoney as a part of a PlanVision subscription. Have you learnt whether or not eMoney, or another various, supplies a extra correct composite breakdown of parameters equivalent to market capitalization, trade sectors, and worldwide areas? If not, would not Portfolio Watch at the least be throughout the ballpark and “ok”?
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Re: What happened to Vanguard’s Portfolio Watch?
Rocinante Rider wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:50 pmHave you learnt of an easy-to-use various that you just’d recommend? I’ve entry to eMoney as a part of a PlanVision subscription. Have you learnt whether or not eMoney, or another various, supplies a extra correct composite breakdown of parameters equivalent to market capitalization, trade sectors, and worldwide areas? If not, would not Portfolio Watch at the least be throughout the ballpark and “ok”?
Sorry, I do not.
In the course of the time it was vital to me, I stored observe of it myself in a spreadsheet. I would arrange the spreadsheet in order that it was comparatively straightforward to manually obtain the account information, copy and paste it into the spreadsheet, and have the important thing components of the spreadsheet tailored to the obtain format. On the time I had three accounts–Vanguard, Constancy, and TIAA-CREF–and it was about half an hour of guide work to replace it.
The reply to your query concerning the ballpark is that it relies upon how correct the info must be, I assume. Portfolio Watch as soon as warned me that my worldwide allocation was outdoors some vary as a result of it was treating a non-Vanguard fund as 100% US when it had a significant worldwide allocation. And it additionally warned me that my sector allocation was totally different from the market, when it wasn’t, as a result of it erroneously believed that Whole Inventory had ZERO holdings within the shopper discretionary sector. And it had the flawed allocation in my partner’s LifeStrategy fund as a result of it was counting the short-term reserves as “bonds.”
When Portfolio Watch is giving me misguided warnings, I assume I would say that is “throughout the ballpark, however in foul territory.”
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